Hi Ed, Thanks for your thoughts. I find it ironic and interesting that I was "in Maryknoll" from 1960-1972 and left just one year shy of ordination but never really heard much about people being asked to leave. I only knew of a very few isolated cases in those 12 years and they happened primarily in high school and early college years. In most cases, I found that the upheaval in the culture and the Catholic church were the biggest causes of departure for the guys who communicated with me. One of our old classmates, now Dr. James Leonard, went through high school and left early in Glen Ellyn. He just didn't feel that he was cut out for that kind of work, enlisted in the army and used it to become a doctor. He has been a noted professor at the University of Michigan School of Medicine for many years.. I guess my point is that Jimmy, like most of the rest of us, was motivated to serve others and the best model for that for Catholic boys who grew up in the 50's were priests. As the Catholic Church and American culture in general were shaken during the 60's a whole lot of other models for service like the Peace Corps and VISTA etc. arose. Then there were the radical changes that Pope John Paul XXIII introduced in the early 60's that lead to the "agiornamento" of the Catholic Church and such upheaval all over the world. I remember in particular that there were many guys in our college ranks who, after 1964, were convinced that at any time the Catholic Church would open up to a married priesthood but who got tired of waiting. Celibacy is an incredible gift given to a very few men whom I have known within and outside of Maryknoll and I have a world of admiration for those who truly live out that calling without "compensating". I speak as one who worked for two years on the mission field with Knollers in Venezuela and trained with others in Bolivia. The whole issue of mandatory celibacy, in my opinion, robbed the Catholic Church of some of its finest servants and terribly damaged others who sublimated with alcohol, pornography and sexual obsessions. I guess I left in '72 after finishing my MA in Theology in Caracas because I just couldn't see myself drifting into the priesthood only to leave after a short while to marry someone. I had seen the devastation that was left behind both in the parishes in Latin America and in the personal lives of many of the guys I worked with. Heck, the superior general of Maryknoll (forget his name) ran off with the mother superior of the Maryknoll nuns in the early 70's, if memory serves me correctly. Talk about leaving a confused bunch of people in his wake! In a curious way, the turmoil of the Catholic Church and American culture succeeded in scattering some wonderfully compassionate and committed young Catholic men into fields of endeavor where they might never otherwise have had a chance to impact people's lives. I think of Jo'c serving as a Lutheran chaplain for many years in a Canadian hospital, Dr. Jimmy Leonard teaching a couple of generations of doctors at the University of Michigan, Eddie Armstrong practicing law, Dale Meisel serving as the prison warden of a Pennsylvania county jail, Mike Mulhern an editor, writer and interviewer of famous people....the list could go on for a long time. I think that the fruit of our emails and conversations will be discovering the wonderful placement of talented, passionate young in service to others in so many different ways. That is the story I can't wait to continue to hear. Foster Braun fosterbraun@hotmail.com (586) 940-1633 Mobile ================================================================================ Foster Braun To: John JSPSWhat a delight to hear from you but I have to admit that it blew my mind when I used Google to find the bustling crossroads of Middle West Pubnico, NS. How in the world did you land about as far east as you can on continental North America? My sister did the same thing in the opposite direction; she headed for BC in the early '70's, spent 30 years as an OT in the Canadian Health System and is now retired, landed immigrant in Fanny Bay, BC on Vancouver Island. Let me make this a personal plea to all the guys on the mailing list, although I have already enjoyed Paul Manghi's response: Would you all please put together a brief bio that traces the arc of your lives from our days at MK to your present circumstances and send them on to Mike Mulhern (mcmulhern1@yahoo.com) to compile. He has the editorial skills and the writer's gift to compile them into a very interesting documentary of the lives of a group of uniquely gifted, idealistic young men who were at an age when most were concerned with getting ahead sexually and socially, concerned with a brighter vision. Some of you may know that I was diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma (bone marrow cancer) in October and am undergoing chemo therapy for a remission some time this year. Today, Wednesday, my hematologist will take a bone marrow sample to see just how well the chemo combo is doing at reaching that goal. If you are at all interested you can follow the saga through a medical website for families and friends of people with life-threatening illnesses called CaringBridge As a matter of fact I have already heard from a number of you through that site thanks to Mike's efforts. I apologize if it sounds like I am trying to sell something here but the guestbook comments that I have received from some of you guys have been a lifeline of encouragement and I am selfish enough to admit freely that I need all that I can get. Feel free to ignore this but I have to say that it has opened some rich sharing with a few of you that I will treasure for the rest of the days that God grants me. I hope to be able to find out more about paths that have taken you to places like Middle West Pubnico in the wilds of Nova Scotia or to being the warden of a county jail in Pennsylvania! I think that I was one of the last ones from the original Venard Class of 60 to finally leave Maryknoll. In 1972 I returned from Caracas, Venezuela where I had completed my Master of Arts in Theology at the major seminary. I left Maryknoll that year at the tender age of 26 deeply appreciative of all that I had received along the way in education, camaraderie, and a vision for helping "the least of the brethren" but convinced that the Catholic priesthood was not the path to achieve those ends. As a matter of fact I hadn't the vaguest idea what I wanted to be when I grew up. Eventually I began a career in radio broadcasting which I still dabble in (www.internetadvisor.net) on a Detroit radio station where I have worked for the last 12 years. Along the way, I was blessed to meet and marry Ginny and her four daughters who have given us 17 grandchildren and are my best friends and biggest supporters. Cancer went off like a grenade in my life in October of this past year when an acute back problem was operated on and the bone marrow revealed the extensive damage done by MM. The other major change that took place in my life occurred much earlier in 1978 when I gave up religion and became a disciple of Jesus Christ. We have served for the last 31 years in various capacities in the same church in suburban Detroit doing everything from leading worship to teaching Sunday School and most recently to becoming an adjunct professor of theology for Central Bible College, Springfield, MO. The rest...well, that is history that is being written as you read and if you are interested, I would be happy to share with you as it unfolds. There you have my thumbnail contribution. Feel free to ignore it or enjoy it; I would love to know your "story" as well. During the last half century approximately since this process began for many of us, our class as a whole has not had much success in keeping in touch with one another or, more honestly, I have had little success in keeping in touch with many of you. I do hope that this changes but will understand if you have no interest in continuing the contact. Mike, thanks for starting the process and I will commit to working with you to help in any way that I can. Every day is a gift for me and I don't want to squander it. Bless you my brothers and Jo'c thanks for starting the ball rolling. Paul M, thanks for the second shove; here we go! Foster Braun 20633 Van Antwerp Harper Woods, MI 48225 fosterbraun@hotmail.com (586) 940-1633 Mobile Braun Mighty Men ================================================================================ Hi Ray, Thanks for the DVD. For some reason my Mac won't play it but Windows Media Player running on Win 7 Pro did just fine. I was impressed with the quality of the production for the two promotional pieces on recruiting since I have dome some video production myself. I did get a kick out of seeing my classmates and myself from the early 70's; it looked like an audition for "Hair"! LOL I, in particular, looked like I had just awoken from sleeping under a bridge and was having a bad hair day! Jake Dunn and Jerome "Froggy" Kernen were by far the most articulate spokespeople for our group. It was also fun to see Tom Bamat on the video. He and I travelled to Buenos Aires together with some of the language teachers as their "chaperones" after we finished language school in 70. Tom stayed on to finish his studies in Chile or Peru, I forget which. Hi Ed, (Armstrong) Thanks for your thoughts. I find it ironic and interesting that I was "in Maryknoll" from 1960-1972 and left just one year shy of ordination but never really heard much about people being asked to leave. I only knew of a very few isolated cases in those 12 years and they happened primarily in high school and early college years. In most cases, I found that the upheaval in the culture and the Catholic church were the biggest causes of departure for the guys who communicated with me. One of our old classmates, now Dr. James Leonard, went through high school and left early in Glen Ellyn. He just didn't feel that he was cut out for that kind of work, enlisted in the army and used it to become a doctor. He has been a noted professor at the University of Michigan School of Medicine for many years.. I guess my point is that Jimmy, like most of the rest of us, was motivated to serve others and the best model for that for Catholic boys who grew up in the 50's were priests. As the Catholic Church and American culture in general were shaken during the 60's a whole lot of other models for service like the Peace Corps and VISTA etc. arose. Then there were the radical changes that Pope John Paul XXIII introduced in the early 60's that lead to the "agiornamento" of the Catholic Church and such upheaval all over the world. I remember in particular that there were many guys in our college ranks who, after 1964, were convinced that at any time the Catholic Church would open up to a married priesthood but who got tired of waiting. Celibacy is an incredible gift given to a very few men whom I have known within and outside of Maryknoll and I have a world of admiration for those who truly live out that calling without "compensating". I speak as one who worked for two years on the mission field with Knollers in Venezuela and trained with others in Bolivia. The whole issue of mandatory celibacy, in my opinion, robbed the Catholic Church of some of its finest servants and terribly damaged others who sublimated with alcohol, pornography and sexual obsessions. I guess I left in '72 after finishing my MA in Theology in Caracas because I just couldn't see myself drifting into the priesthood only to leave after a short while to marry someone. I had seen the devastation that was left behind both in the parishes in Latin America and in the personal lives of many of the guys I worked with. Heck, the superior general of Maryknoll (forget his name) ran off with the mother superior of the Maryknoll nuns in the early 70's, if memory serves me correctly. Talk about leaving a confused bunch of people in his wake! In a curious way, the turmoil of the Catholic Church and American culture succeeded in scattering some wonderfully compassionate and committed young Catholic men into fields of endeavor where they might never otherwise have had a chance to impact people's lives. I think of Jo'c serving as a Lutheran chaplain for many years in a Canadian hospital, Dr. Jimmy Leonard teaching a couple of generations of doctors at the University of Michigan, Eddie Armstrong practicing law, Dale Meisel serving as the prison warden of a Pennsylvania county jail, Mike Mulhern an editor, writer and interviewer of famous people....the list could go on for a long time. I think that the fruit of our emails and conversations will be discovering the wonderful placement of talented, passionate young in service to others in so many different ways. That is the story I can't wait to continue to hear. Foster Braun fosterbraun@hotmail.com (586) 940-1633 Mobile ================================================================================